There it is! Dennis to the rescue! Yes, I love a good conversation but I would rather listen to someone like you that knows more. One of the things in casino silver that just fascinate me are the silver bars (larger than 1 oz but those as well) from casinos. You know, the when, where, why, how, and who of the items origin. IF, which I don’t, I had one to trade for one you had, that would be an easy exercise. But those kind of bars were a bit unreasonable when silver was at $14, now at $25, I never see them!