Ron, While your on the subject of "pathetic" what do you think about that great institution the "American Red Cross" and what they have done with the funds specifically collected for the victims of 9/11? Two-thirds of it has never and will never reach the people it was intended for! When you have "immorality" in the Presidency it leaves a lot of "open doors" for others to just take what they want without any responsibility or accounting!......................Dick Maheu