Ted,you said it all very well.....just another reason why I sold off my collection. It's sad but so true how the machines are filled up with folks playing for the dealers. Collecting was just plain fun years ago, and thoughs ss machines that would kick out 5 ss!!!! WOW when you got one of thoughs wins it was so exciting and then addictive! Things change and not always for the good or better for the collectors.....just my 2 cents too.....