Rick..the importance of an email, and you did post it on the second message, is sometimes we like to respond privately to the thread so as not to get involved and open ourselves to criticism. There has been a lot lately. However, your first message clearly makes a difference between CHIPPERS vs. strikers, even in the post and use of upper and lower case. It is an inclusive message. Perhaps not meant to be, but neverthless that is how it translates and it appears you have posted it on both boards. That is your choice, and mine is to respond. I have used negative feedback on three occassions, once as a buyer and twice as a seller and never had a retalitory response, in fact all three situations were resolved. Your original message clearly indicates that you find a difference in the integrity of the two groups, however, I would remind you that we strikers are all first members of the parent club and many of us collect both strikes and chips. We have all had unfortunate experiences, but I have never before seen an entire group blamed for the actions of two or three deals gone south. That's the chance we all take on eBay.