As always Peter, you're right. I guess what I'm trying to ask is should the Sierra Sid's pounders be included in the SSOTY nominations. I don't know if there are any guidelines to follow such as Gaming approval. I'd like to list them if they are eligible. I really would like an answer so I can upload them to the webpage if they should be included. I have one day before I leave for 2 weeks and I won't be back before the voting ends unless it is extended, as Archie predicts might happen. If anyone knows , please let me know as soon as possible.