Chuck I am not only a member of the silver strikers but also a member of the CC & GTCC which Erdal Atrek is also a member. I don't consider him to be an outsider. I noticed you were at the Palm's "chipper" show last month so I am sure you are not afraid of a little "rubbing elbows" with the rest of the club. Once again the subject is not a matter of "grading" but as to "discribing" condition
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